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Is there a relationship between "I know it's true" and "it satisfies my longings as nothing else would do"?

Historically, not that I know of. I think CS Lewis wrote an argument in that vein, but I also think that post-dates this song, so great minds think alike?

Who is the target audience of "the story"?

It varies. "Those who know it best seem" like they're still appreciative of the message. And "'twill be my theme in glory" to sing it...does that mean we're going to be in heaven announcing the good news? I feel like people won't need much evangelism at that point. Or does that just mean we'll be praising God and extolling Jesus, which is a common description?

Anyway, the emphasis on repeating the gospel to the usual suspects is an interesting change of pace from typical missionary stuff, which is probably why it's progressive enough to still include. IDK, I'm guessing a lot of this section was carefully crafted to appease the culture warriors. More later, someday, maybe.

Probably won't be around the next couple days, we'll see. Marathons, sprints, etc.
Any cool rhyme scheme appearances?

Laughter/rafter at the end, nice. Parallels witness/Jesus, which, less impressive. (Jesus/frees us is a nice one syllable-two syllable blend.)

This Haugen guy again, is he Lutheran?

Catholic, actually. A lot of his songs are popular in kinda-contemporary-but-not-in-the-bad-way Catholic churches.

Is that a good thing?

Yes and no? I like this song, it's well-written. One of my close friends from high school was raised Catholic, however (I'm not sure what she considers herself now) and was like "this song is pretty hypocritical because I have felt unwelcome/excluded in my church. :("
Another exclamation point?

Yeah, this is maybe more common than I realized.

Isn't the title a movement from the Messiah or something?

Yep. It's actually a quote from the book of Job, which is not known for its lightheartedness, but has been re-interpreted in light of Christianity as Easter rejoicing.

What about "prophet, priest, and king"?

Referencing the different roles of Jesus. (In part paralleling David, who was also a king and some kind of priest? IDK, my church has a bunch of abstract stained glass windows with various Biblical parallels, and David|Jesus is one.) This exact phrasing shows up in one of the Epiphany songs we'll get to at some point, albeit not in rhyming format.
What is your association with this song?

So many years ago, during Lent, my church sung the second verse (Jesus gives the living water) every week as kind of a theme for the season.

Towards the end of the season, my mom preached a sermon, and I (as a young kid) made an appearance. I'd been sick, went to the bathroom in the middle of the night for a drink of cold water, and promptly vomited it back up. So my mom turned that into a metaphor about "are we doomed to not accept the healing Jesus gives us." (No.)

What was the deal?

As a little kid I was like "well maybe it was just too cold and a shock to my system, I should have tried something lukewarm." In retrospect, I'm guessing that was an early forerunner of my nauseating migraines. :(
Is this another Martin Luther original?

Sure is, words and music.

How do you know?

I mean it says so at the bottom of the page. But also, stuff like "all our good works are done in vain" and "in you alone, O God, we hope, and not in our own merit" are extremely Luther turns of phrase.

Any more original ones?

I like "we trust the cross, your signature" to rhyme with "strong and sure." Don't think this is a hymn we sing very often, but that's a cool metaphor.
Is this the only melody for these line lengths?

Apparently so, at least in this book.. (It shows up again for another hymn.) When I started skimming it I mentally associated the first few lines with another melody, but maybe I merged that in with a different song.

How well does the translation hold up?

A lot of not-really-feminine rhymes (tender/surrender is pretty good). What amused me was "God, who did so gently school me." In context it obviously means "educate," but...I like the image of God one-upping someone, but like in a nice way.

Why is "lovingkindness" one word?

I think it's a translation of some Latin (Hebrew? Greek??) concept. Not super common, but shows up in some songs.
Does this song have a heterosexist paradigm?

Nope! It's just about "two whom we cherish," as opposed to the other song in this section, which is about "this Christian man and woman."

Not even assuming Christianity? That's a little vague.

I mean, it's addressed to Lord, starting in the first line.

"The" other song?

Yeah, we're through Marriage already! All two songs of it! That wasn't so bad, now. I mean, lots of posts have been delayed because I got exhausted and didn't have energy, and I'm sure lots more will be in the future, so who knows about that whole schedule thing. But this section is very brief.

Why is it even its own section?

Don't know. I think it was longer in the predecessor hymnal, but those were maybe too heterosexist too.

Edit: wait, did you just skip #585? I can't find it.

...apparently so.

Welp, we're only halfway through this section, I guess, I'll try to remember to include it the next time around!
Is the alto part really boring?

Not the most monotone, but it's up there. Down there?

Who is the hymn tune's namesake, St. Denio?

Unclear. Probably this guy (from the 500s) but I guess that's up for debate?

Does it get kinda twee in parts?

I think "a circle of care" isn't amazing. I mean, it rhymes. And it beats the alternatives, I guess. But still...I'm not good at being all caring and stuff.
Where and why was this written?

This is one of the opening songs in "Holden Evening Prayer," which is a liturgy written by Marty Haugen (who we will run into frequently) when he was at Holden Village. That is a retreat in Washington State, I think run by Lutherans? with a lot of spiritual/social justice hippie kind of retreats. The liturgy has caught on and is often used for midweek services in Advent or Lent, at least at some of the larger churches I've gone to. I enjoy it! (And this song, it's good.) Preferably when there isn't a lot of silence/meditation time and/or homilies, if I wanted a long sermon and stuff I'd just go to normal church. :P

Is this the only Holden Evening Prayer song that made the leap to being an independent hymn in its own right?

I think so, yes.

But it's based on a 3rd century text?

...That I did not know, but apparently so, yes!
Is the alto part pretty boring?

I sense lots of D-repetition up in here.

Have you ever sung this?

Yes and no!

I don't recognize the melody/this arrangement, but my choir has sung a different arrangement. By this guy.

His middle name is Handel? Isn't that putting a lot of pressure on the kid to be a great composer?

Probably, but he turned out okay.

So I assume the alto part is more interesting?

Yeah, all of it is more interesting. The choir sings unaccompanied when we get to the part about "unaccompanied by thee," get it? Ohoho.

Are you doing it this year?

Not sure. It's in our practice folders but we have yet to rehearse it. Maybe the director just assumes we already know it well.
Doesn't the little | | :   .... : | | mean "sing the part between these symbols twice"?


Then why does it say "repeat stanza, then sing refrain?"

Sometimes people are slow and don't get it.

Anything weird about the harmonization?

The alto part looks pretty normal. From a glance, however, the men's parts have a fairly broad range; at one point the basses are down at a low G, and at another, the tenors are up at a high F.

Is that bad? Good?

I don't know, I'm not a tenor. I guess the weirder thing there is that it's an F-natural, against the tenors' B, which is a tritone, and which usually sounds fairly dissonant to people.

Does it sound better in the context of the women's parts?

Probably yeah.
Who is the composer?

Christopher Wordsworth, nephew of William.

Is the song really addressed in praise of the day of the week?


What is the "silver trumpet"?

Not sure. Unless it's like representing organs or some kind of church music, but that would be a weird phrasing.

Is the alto part pretty boring?

Let's just say there are a whole lot of E's repeated, especially in that third line.
Didn't we just do this one?

Yes, but Lutherans really like it.

Same text? Same pitches?

Basically, yeah.

Then why twice?

Oh we're just getting started.

But. Why.

So, the previous arrangement was just melody. This has harmonization too.

They couldn't have combined it into one like they do for all the other harmonizations?

Not in this case. See, this one is in 4/4 with even measures. The previous one doesn't really have measures, the durations of the notes are just kinda "whatever" and it's more dance like.

So do they have different hymn tune names?

No, the hymn tune is "Ein feste burg" (which is just the German for "A Mighty Fortress") in both cases.

Then how do you tell them apart?

In the hymn tune index (yes, of course there is one), the previous version is "Ein feste burg (rhythmic)" and this one is "Ein feste burg (isometric)."

Isn't an isometry also a sort of function in mathematical analysis that preserves--

Yes, yes, that's something else though.
What is the name of the hymn tune?

"Holy Manna." That's also referenced in the first line; "holy manna is our bread."

So the tune was named after these lyrics?

Well, no. It's ~150 years older, for one, and comes from a tune called "Brethren, We Have Met To Worship" (not in this hymnal, but my choir has sung a couple different arrangements). That one talks about "pray, oh pray that holy manna will be showered all around."

Did that one get rejected because it's sexist for being about Brethren?

I don't think so, it wasn't in the predecessor either. But you never know.

So which of these is the better set of lyrics for this tune?

Neither! The best set of lyrics for this tune is in another section which we will hopefully get to someday.
What is the time signature?

Well, it starts in 4/4, which is very common. But then at the end of the first long phrase there's a 6/4. The second phrase is basically the same as the first phrase, except they put the 6/4 measure in the middle instead of at the end. The last phrase has a different melody, but same pattern as the second.


It's German?

I mean why did they break it up that way?

No idea.

How about the feminine rhymes?

Well, we get a lot of repetition between verses; the end has given/heaven twice, and ever/forever followed by sever/forever.

Duly and truly is pretty good though.

I think duly is technically related to "due," but it's an etymology that doesn't come up too often.
Who is the lyricist?

Isaac Watts, who we will run into many more times. 16-1700s British guy.

So the rhymes are untranslated?

Yeah but they're 300 years old, so also there's that.

Cool turns of phrase?

I like "peculiar honors" for "individual/unique forms of praise;" not so big on "his name like sweet perfume shall rise." I guess a lot of scents gross me out and I'd rather not compare Jesus' name to them.

How about coffee? Some people are smelling coffee "with every morning sacrifice [presumably of prayer, not the murdery kind]."

Yeah, that smell I like.
What festival does this commemorate?

The Presentation of Jesus, when he was brought to the temple, and two old people there (Simeon and Anna) were like "hooray, God has shown us the promised savior, now we can die in peace."

When is this observed?

Apparently February 2, 40 days after Christmas.

Do you ever celebrate that date?


But you do know this story?

I think the story of Simeon and Anna is sometimes read if there's time on the Sunday after Christmas; depends on the year. (Lutherans have a three-year cycle of Bible readings in church.) Simeon's song of praise has also been adapted into a bunch of hymns/liturgy songs.

Will we run across any of those?

Maybe! They might also be tucked in the "service music" section that I'm skipping.
Are you at all familiar with this arrangement?


What's Kyrie?

A famous basketball player for the Celtics.

It's also the Greek word for "Lord"; a lot of old liturgical texts (usually sung early in the service) have "Kyrie Eleison, Christe Eleison, Kyrie Eleison," where "Eleison" means "have mercy," and "Christe," unsurprisingly, means "Christ."

Weren't Catholics super into doing everything in Latin for a huge length of time?


Why did they stick with Greek for this?

Not sure.

Why is this one also referring to God as the creator, and the Holy Spirit, not just asking for Christ/Lord to have mercy?

Don't know either.

Look, the melody's from like 800, that's pretty neat, right?
Does this count as a praise song?

I'm...not sure? It has the chorus/verse motif that is a little more common in those. And it was written in 1978. I don't think it's all that "peppy," though. It's thoughtful, I like it!

What about the rhymes?

The verses are fairly straightforward. The chorus has the internal-ish assonance of "gentleness/wilderness//restlessness/placidness," which yeah, the "ness" is the common factor, but the specificity is great. (How many times do you come across the word "placidness" in your daily life?)
Was this in the predecessor main hymnal (the "green book" or Lutheran Book of Worship)?

Yeah, I think so. Twice even!

What do you mean twice?

Like in a bunch of copies at the church where I (mostly) grew up, I seem to remember a copy of this taped to the inside cover.

Why would they need another copy if it was already in the hymnal?

I don't know. I think it was labeled with verse breakdowns, because there are a lot of them. "1 unison, 2 men, 3 women, 4 choir in parts, 5 organ solo, skip 6, 7 and 8 unison" or something.

But did they do the same arrangement every year? Like for Easter or something?

I don't think so.



Or you could just be making this up.

I wouldn't do that to you. Possible I misremembered though.


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